and reinforcement they get online. >> have we reached a point -- look, even here, i'll speak for myself. the folks at the network will present factual information, back it up with examples, concrete empirical evidence and people say that's not true or it's fake news. it's like what, are you talking about? i'm often shocked by the amount of propaganda that people believe. have we reached a point where propaganda can pass as truth and lies? here's why this is happens. i was thinking about this much watching cnn earlier this evening. anderson was going through all the lies in the president's speech for lack of a better word on immigration today. because the internet gives you the tiny nichs you can go into, you can tell yourself you're extremely well informed because you have all of these sites bookmarked because you're following these 100 people on twitter and watching tv but you can never stumble across a show that's actually giving you