people being found in an atrium and a basement. the atrium is that entranceway area? >> there's a common atrium area where you could -- it's a central part of the building. it leads up to the services. oftentimes there are people milling around in that area, either going to the ladies room, men's room or the coat room. >> if i'm a person that's walking past the corner at that time, can i walk in freely? is there anyone that would greet me at the door or stop me? >> not typically. on a day like today, the door is open. it's a religious service, and you can walk in and out. >> you mentioned you were the immediate past president. how big of a concern was security for you? >> it was a major concern for me, for us, we were working with