he's working his sources on the phone right now. do you need a minute? okay. is jim maxwell with us, former bomb tech? jim, hi. what can you -- >> hi. >> what we have learned so far from these previous packages that we know this one is similar to is that some of the powder found in the one that actually made it in the cnn building earlier this week was a py pyropattern. what would you be looking for if you were with that team, with this containment vessel? >> well, the material is a general term. i'll give you an example. the material pulled from