turn up any. you know, these are folks from mostly honduras, fleeing both political and criminal violence there. and now, as they gain strength, a lot of folks, you know, from guatemala and now in mexico are seeing this as an opportunity to follow a dream north. so there's strength in numbers, they say. but yeah, we all know the dog whistle implied in the middle easterner line. and you know, not to argue with vice president mike pence, he may believe what he says, but what seems inconceivable is some terrorist would fly to the very southern tip of mexico and then walk for a couple months through the searing heat when they can just fly to the united states the way the 9/11 hijackers did. so you know, i think politics, this fearmongering, sort of fomenting the terror of the stranger is as old as politics itself, kate. >> and part of that is the