it is bad, but -- >> but your man -- our president is always at the head of the hate parade. and you know it. but you won't call him out and why would he ever stop? >> chris, we didn't have the same level of outrage when kirstjen nielsen had to leave a restaurant, when -- >> of course. got beat up by don lemon for saying there's a time, place and manner and these people are in a private place and shouldn't be doing this and it's counterproductive. do you think cruz or any of these people are going to get on your side? but you won't say it about trump. you're a smart guy. you can't go near trump. >> i'll make the -- >> it's got to start with trump. >> i'll make the most blanket statement i can. >> no, with trump. >> from president trump to the local dog catcher, nobody should be inciting violence. that's as clear as i can be. nobody should have violence. >> that's too low of a bar. too low a bar. too low a bar. you shouldn't celebrate someone