politics, it's not real the point. the incentive structure is about winning at the end of the day. ultimately that could supplant principle. whatever the benefits of more people having their voices heard, there could be incredibly negative consequences of that, as well in terms of the backlash being greater than ever. >> i wonder, it's been a year since all of there. i have literally 20 seconds left. harvey weinstein and on and on. how much progress has been made? >> it is a constant conversation. the culture has changed. this isn't really just about fixing the past. this is about changing the future. >> thank you, all. i wish we all had more time. this is a fascinating conversation. thanks. have a good weekend. >> thank you. >> you too. >> next i want to talk about the guilty verdict in the trial of a white police officer who shot and killed a black chicago teenager and how that verdict sends a message to people who wonder whether justice will be hard to come by in the future. i'm alex trebek here to tell you