rights at all is something that is a stark statement from a u.s. president. and just because president trump often is looked at as something different than we've seen from past presidents, and he absolutely is. what if president obama had said this about castro, for instance, we're having a love affair? >> it would be strange because obama isn't given to that kind of statement. no drama obama. very well spoken and reserved. trump would not say he doesn't care about human rights. he cares about human rights when he can use it as a schtick to abuse leaders of countries he doesn't care for. we've seen that with president rouhani. in north korea, he likes giet, it's irrelevant. duterte, it's irrelevant. i think it's that transactional nature, it tonight matter if it's not in the service of the deal. that's what makes the trump