>> chairman grassley said they've tried to secure testimony from ms. ramirez eight different times and you've not made her available. we've been sent the e-mail ex-changes, and we talked about this two nights ago. essentially, the republicans on the committee were asking you specifics on exactly what your client is alleging, if there's anything else that wasn't in "the new yorker" piece, and any other details before they would even agree to have a conference call with you. you were insisting on having a conference call before giving any more information. is that about accurate? >> kind of. we just put those documents out, as well. so if anybody wants to see them, they can read through the e-mails, as well. as you can see initially in the communication, we're looking to figure out how our client can have a meaningful participation in this process. everybody wants to set up a