and that would -- probably wouldn't come testify, but it would have the effect of slowing it down. >> and what kind of company does she have with that? you typically see suzanne collins and lisa murkowski together and they were getting tremendous pressure from back home. folks threatening to run against collins in maine. murkowski, the governor of alaska coming out against brett kavanaugh, some local groups as well. so there is a tremendous amount of pressure, and it will be interesting to see if, as we have seen in the past, they basically kind of do it together. >> comes to the credibility of question. let me read from the prepared testimony of professor ford. there was music playing in the bedroom. it was uturned up louder. i was pushed on to the bed and brett got on top of me. the american people viewed it as a draw. how do you settle that? in today's world we know people