but, again, it goes back to the mueller investigation. this is where the mueller investigation was brewed from, and it shows you that its underpinnings, frankly, are one of politics and antipathy to the president as opposed to, as i point out, a rule of law approach that was required out of the justice department handling something so sensitive. >> you and i can go back and forth about whether or not the decision to appoint mueller was a lawful one. i've heard this argument that, you know, they didn't articulate a criminal precedent. there is no requirement for that. you can investigate something where there's a reasonable suspicion that it's necessary. i went through all the case law and all that stuff, but that's a pretty subtle discussion. the politics of what motivated it, why ignore the president getting rid of comey? if you're going to look for a "but for" factor here, but for him moving on comey the way he did, why would rosenstein have ever done this? >> based on this discussion, it looks like getting rid of comey was a pretext as opposed to a reason. that they were upset about the