but then you can expect her, she may not have corroboration at the time, but she's going to have this visceral, compelling story. and that's what we're going to see. >> but again, think about the facts. apparently brett kavanaugh today said to orrin hatch, i wasn't at that party. miss ford says, i can't remember which party it was. well, what's going on here? i mean, what party was it? and how does he know he wasn't at a party, she isn't even sure which one it was. this is why you need to have an investigation. this is why the democrats are trying to get the fbi involved and have them explore these circumstances, whereas the republicans are saying, no, no, no, the congressional committee staff can handle the whole thing. >> it seems hard, though, to imagine, even that the fbi can figure out where there was a high school party 30 years ago. >> you know, it can be done. >> i guess you never know. >> and maybe it will fail. but the one thing is for sure, is that if uh you don't try, yo