>> anthony: if you were to imagine the perfect business, or the most efficient export for a land-locked nation with most of its borders closed, it would be information technology, right? or, to put it simply, brains. >> anthony: you teach chess in school, is that? >> ruben: yes. >> anthony: in school? >> ruben: yup, in school. >> anthony: starting at what age? >> arthur: third grade. my son hates it. he's a fourth grader. >> ruben: second grade. >> anthony: so everybody plays chess or was taught chess? >> ruben yeah, everybody. >> anthony: that already is a very different-- >> harut: i have a ranking, actually. >> arthur: really? i didn't know. come on. >> anthony: yeah, but that's a very different mentality than most places. >> harut: we have actually, my mom took me to chess class. it was not because of the country is like a super nation in chess or something, just she