want some kind of cooperation gremd as pard of any deal. we doend know where the two sides have come down on this. again, what we're told is this is a very close to a deal and final agreement has not yet been done but that's one of the things we're all looking for to see what kind of terms are reached and whether or not he's going to cooperate with the special counsel's investigation. perhaps against the president or other people who may be implicated in that investigation. >> that's a critically important element. standby. i want to get some more on this breaking story unfolding. joining us on the phone is jeffrey toobin. we don't know whether paul manafort will cooperate with federal investigators. usually that's the case, isn't it? >> cooperation usually is the case. frankly, given manafort's lack of leverage at this point, i