but they have just enthralled by her and what show's done. what is it specifically that's made her this pop culture icon now for a woman who is in her 80s? >> who doesn't like someone who challenges the system and lives to tell about it into her 80s. that's what she wassing to in the '70s when she was a woman's right volk, winning more than losing in those years, and that's what she's doing now, although we know she's losing more than winning, but she's firing up a i lo the of people with those dissents. >> she certainly is. listen, you have covered her for year, as you know, but there was an interview that you did during the 2016 campaign that obviously made a lot of headlines. she said then canned discriminate donald trump was a ferric and got a lot of blowback for that, too. did it damage her reputation even on the court? >> i don't think so. i think there are people who