investigation that threatens to take down the trump presidency which began because of a conversation inside this london wine bar between papadopoulos and the australian ambassador the uk at the time, alexander downer. >> so for the australian high commissioner to reach out to me out of the blue considering i had no background whatsoever in the u.s./australian relationship, i found it odd, i have to say. initially i thought it was very odd. >> so down eer has only given o interview describing your meeting so i'll read his version of events. he said you, quote, mentioned the russians might use material they have on hillary clinton in the leadup to the election which may be damaging. so his memory is, at least accord this interview, that you said the russians had material that could be damaging to hillary clinton. is it possible you said that? >> anything is possible, jake. i have absolutely no recollection of ever mentioning that to this individual. he might have heard something.