seriousness at times. which was to everybody's benefit. >> we kept a book called mommy left. which had -- >> give me constant advice. it's stocks falling about seven? it's time to come home for dinner. and 7:30 and somewhere between 7:30 and 9:00 we make it. and the other thing time for you to go to sleep. those are the daily advice. that i get. >> it's not that bad advice you have to eat one meal a day. and go to sleep. >> he allowed ruth to be who she was. that is, a relatively reserved, serious person. who focussed on her law work and loved doing that. and the relationship was just