of anticipation. it's very intense and austere and important and very male, and it's the whole thing feels like -- i was really kind of scared. we sat down at the counsel table, and i had all these huge case books for me to help her with cites. and the court began with the oy-ay and here we are. >> oh yea, oh yea, all persons having business before the supreme court of the united states are admonished to draw near and give their attention. the court is now sitting. >> mrs. ginsburg? >> i was terribly, terribly nervous. but then i looked up at the justices, and i thought, i have