that went on at trump tower that is still being investigated to an extent with the donald trump jr. meeting. and there are still questions about that. is there a mueller ruling or a mueller indictment or a mueller written statement on that? not yet. joan, go ahead. >> no, i'm just saying that e-mail will always stand out. you know, the russian government is interested in offering the campaign some dirt. if it's what you say, i love it. you're welcoming something that is illegal. not cash but material assistance from a foreign government to a campaign. that is a conspiracy. i mean i don't know how don junior gets out of that. >> we'll see if it's a conspiracy. >> by not taking anything at all -- >> can i comment? >> -- from the russians. >> can i comment real quick? >> michael, you have ten seconds. then i've got to give bakari the last word. >> does bakari go now or i? >> you go, it's eight seconds and then bakari. >> i'm going to hand my time over to bakari because i like him a lot. >> all right. bakari. >> so i just wanted to push back
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