talked about his relationship with the media, i think he saw the media not as his buddies, didn't look at it as his friends, but looked at it as part of a process that made america great. >> forgiveness. here's a man that could forgive his vietnamese captors, imagine the model that sets for there's not lot of forgiveness going on. you see what's called a loader, which will carry his casket down from the military jet, a military honor card representing all branches of the military. there are eight members there that once it comes from the plane there and the family waiting as well. there, we see them, an emotional moment for all involved. elaine, help us place -- there's been a lot of talk about this the last several days.