well, now they got florida as their ultimate test case and they're going to have to try to produce. one side will him one side won't. >> just from a practical standpoint, how nasty is this going to get in the next ten weeks? >> you know, we have to get an entirely few grading scale on nastiness. the old nasty now is considered mild mannered. i'd say very, very nasty. will there be contests that are nastier? sure. the 2020 presidential company. that's what we can have to look forward to there. this one will be exception ally nasty because you can already see all of the different dividing streams in american politics coming together, from party and ideology, to race and class. it's all going to be present in this cauldron called florida. >> so all of that is precedent, especially with each candidate. they're appealing to the folks who help get them to where they are today. yet as we started off talking about, there will be a reach for those folks in the middle. how much do you see that coming