that can be construed a number of different ways, one of which it was just a vendor payment, it wasn't a loan, a vendor payment paid to his lawyer. and under the rules, right, you have a lawyer, lawyers get paid all the time. and lawyers get paid, and they charge for fees, they charge for expenses, they charge for a number of different things. that could be construed as a vendor payment, and could be interpreted by his lawyers, we don't know how his lawyers interpreted that provision and gave him advice relative to it. >> one at a time. don't flood the zone, one at a time, what do you think, laura coates. >> that's a big stretch. we're not talking about a reimbursement for a meal. we're talking about the idea of whether or not you tried to circumvent campaign finance law. even if it were a loan, there would be no purpose of having campaign finance laws if all you had to do was wait until after