open about was his enormous affection for donald trump and his determination to use the enquirer to help donald trump get elected president. there is nothing improper about that. the nation is a magazine that supports liberals. the weekly standard supports conservatives. magazines can support candidates. the issue is can they use money to subsidize their campaigns? that would be unlawful. david pecker did admit to me that he did give money to one of the president's or then candidate's alleged former lovers to help donald trump get elected. i think there is potentially some legal problems for him. there was until he got immunity. >> talking about david pecker. the president suggesting it should almost be illegal for someone facing jail time to