keeps it away from a campaign but it is in fact a campaign contribution. so looks like they have trouble. >> talk to me about that. in the court of public opinion, does it matter if it was campaign money or not? >> well, don, the president is trying to fudge that. but michael cohen standing up in court yesterday and not only the court of justice but the word of opinion that he committed campaign finance crimes at the direction and control of a candidate. we all know who that is, the president of the united states. and i think you've seen this reverberation across the country. there are some things that get confined to the cognizant. the connoisseurs of law. not this one. the smell, you can only ignore