she was the same age as my mother. they're about seven months apart. and this icon that i grew up listening to every single day pretty much in my household, i'm all of a sudden friends with her. it was amazing, out of body, but she's just a regular -- as regular as you can be if you're aretha franklin. we would would talk about remember things. >> tough suffers no fools, but what did you learn about her that people should know? >> she did not suffer fools very well by the way. >> nope. >> but if you were good to her, she was good to you. and if you kept her confidence, she kept your confidence. and if you didn't keep her confidence, you weren't going to be her friend for a long time. but i learned from her to stand up for what i believe in, do it from your heart, and make sure wherever you work, that they pay you what you are worth. that's what i learned from her. so thank you, ms. franklin, for that.