that. >> right. but the thing about her that made her special and made her a queen, and a lot of singers don't understand this, she knew music. she knew what key she was singing in. she knew what chord you were playing. she could tell you what to play. she was an intellectual. she knew about different topics, opera, musical terminology. she was a perfectionist, and she worked very hard so nurture her craft, and she truly deserved the title of being the queen of soul. >> you negotiatiknow, i've seen written many times that she couldn't read music, that she was a true natural. you're saying, of course, and we heard in her songs that didn't mean much. >> right, but she could read a little bit. she was not ill literal. no, she could read some. i don't know where they got that from.