that's the big difference. >> i want to take you and our viewers back a little bit. this is from back in the day. you testifying to congress about nixon's enemies list. this is from nbc. here it is. >> as i have submitted in documents, other agencies were involved in seeking politically embarrassing information on individuals who were thought to be enemies of the white house. i might also add that in my possession is a rather -- very much down the lines of what you're talking about is a memorandum that was requested by me to prepare a meeps to attack the enemies of the white house. there was also maintained what was called an enemies list, which is rather extensive and continually being updated. >> there were -- talk to me about that. was that gasps? >> that was -- there was a silence in the room.