president of the united states should call anybody a dog under any circumstances. does it matter -- and i'm his the tonight to dissect this on a word-by-word basis but does it matter that he's also called white people and men dogs in the past? >> you should not call anyone dogs. but overwhelmingly in my knowledge and experiences it has always been african-american people that he's called out of their names. names to embarrass them and to smear them. that has been my experience. >> there's a it will of people he's called dogs. >> it's all on one side. it's all on one side as far as i know. >> i'm not sure in this case it matters. i mean, using the word dog, as we can say, we can argue it's not presidential and you can make a compelling case that when you use it toward an african-american woman it means something different than in other cases but just to state the case, he has said it about men and white men in the past as