>> i think it's a tough decision. if you're the fbi director, you're trying to weigh two different things. there is peter strzok's performance as an fbi employee. he had a reputation of someone who is widely known as an excellent investigator, a counterintelligence agent. and then conduct. if you're sitting in the shoes of dave bowdich, does this type of conduct warrant a serious meting out of punishment, which would include termination in this case. he said that it did. i think that the audience wasn't necessarily the outside world, the american people, but it was internally. it was telling the rank and file that we expect you, the career fbi employees, to come to work every day and comport yourself in concert with our core values. how can i ask you to do that when i'm not holding our own senior leaders to the very same high standards? i doubt it was a very easy decision, but it was one he determined he had to make. >> gloria, you can also look at it as if he stayed in his job and interacted in the future on other occasions, would people