something bigger than what we think it is. and then the bang was like, it was an indication something was wrong. >> i'll ask you to explain sort of the landscape there in the seattle tacoma area. the islands. we understand these f-15 scramble from portland, oregon. and they guided this plane to an area that is remote enough. people live there right near the bridge and at the same time this is an area that is quite remote, yes? >> yes, why are they so low? there's no airports, no where to land that plane. i was like, that had to come out of sea-tac.