sensible policy on immigration broadly that's fine with me. >> i'll say she could the ret cli, a senior adviser to the president and power to say, dad, i want to be in charge of making sure that these kids are all reunified and send them back to the home countries or whatever. she didn't do that. >> if nothing else, a reminder that there are hundreds of kids not returned to their parents and that the trump administration is going in to court saying aclu, you care so much, you find the parents. rather than the government doing it which, i mean, if nothing else, it should stay in the conversation because there are children who are not with their parents and while, you know, you can question the tactics, i suppose if you were to compare it to the room of somebody with access to the president and children who are kept from their parents or not returned to them, i imagine there's a moral muscle in there that flexes for any of us and says, hey, please do something. >> she's been in the room and