not going to be advantageous to mr. balderson. and guess what. we're talking about it. again, takes him off message. and he puts something out there that can be interpreted in many different ways. that, mind you, can be interpreted -- >> this is the anniversary week of charlottesville. you cannot talk about separation like that. people look at things differently. but the base of it is i'm separate from you. period. i'm separate from you. >> he's got to represent this. >> special elections are inherently base turnout elections. his base in this district is really all in the rural counties. what he's trying to tell people in the rural counties is we need someone from the rural part of this district to represent us in congress. it has everything to do with the rural-urban divide that's been on display in this country really since 2016. >> it boils down to race. >> i disagree with that. >> the rural-urban divide, it does. >> i agree with that. and people will hear it that way. the people who actually are going to be going out to vote. >> you guys are talking about