point. this is one of the more effective parts of the defense cross today, was just the fact that there's no honor among thieves. they're both -- right? manafort is sitting there accused of bank fraud and tax fraud and gates is admitting not only to that but also to having stolen money from the person who's having him steal money. it's sort of like this very complex web of deceit. >> it's pretty incredible. garrett, we're also learning that federal prosecutors tonight are now investigating michael cohen, trump's former lawyer, for tax fraud, right? which is exactly what we're talking about with rick gates and paul manafort. you now have three people from the trump inner circle during the campaign under scrutiny, charged or have actually pleaded guilty to the charges of tax fraud. does this mean mueller is zeroing in on the president himself? >> well, it's hard to say. obviously the michael cohen investigation is by the southern district of new york. a separate investigation. but where you sort of see these threads come together is rick gates over the last 48 hours has shown how devastating it can be to have a trusted aide, a