occurred well after the civil war ended. to basically put a foot down, and controvert what happened during the civil war and try to perpetuate the notion that the civil war was the great calls that was lost and the country was worse for it. i said, wait a minute. these are the folks who fought to destroy the united states, not to unify it. and then finally as a mayor of a major african-american city that i am rebuilding being able to go to the people and say are we going to continue this charade that some how this man is a person of reference that did something great for the country. it wasn't. i called the question. the city of new orleans has a continuous government. i as mayor at this point in time was continuing the work. we had the course correct. >> you removed this and three other, sort of icons of the, of the cult of the lost cause. around this city. but it was not easy. >> no. it was hard. awe all. but once, once, i started put might self in the shoes of winton and other people.