clinton's former attorney, and he's also been angry at the news media for continually asking him questions about this and not about a lot of other things that he would rather talk about. the president has been stewing about this coverage. he wants to change the subject, and he is talking to his lawyers as well, talking about legal strategies for how they cope with this. it seems, though, anderson, that the strategy they've come up with is attack michael cohen and say nothing publicly to the media. >> and still no explanation from the white house why it seems like the president lied about his knowledge of any payment from ami to karen mcdougal. >> reporter: this is another case of the white house making statements about what the president did and did not know. senior trump officials have said the president didn't know anything about these payments. that turned out to be completely untrue based on the audiotape of the president himself talking about that payment were michael cohen before the election. but, again, here the white house refusing to talk about it. white house aides are now referring questions about this issue to the president's outside