charge and charge juries -- we're not there yet but i'm giving you perspective on how you evaluate credibility. one thing they talk about is motivation to lie. who would have a motivation to lie here? now, this might, you know, go to the benefit of president trump. you have, of course, cohen here, who is in a bit of a pickle. obviously, as a result of that, he is going to be prone to jump out of it. but it's more than motivation to lie. it goes to opportunity to observe. what person would have an opportunity to observe what the president did, his actions, the meeting, than a person who's around him, like this fixer, michael cohen. and so, to the extent he's around the president, he would know what the president said, who the president said it to and who said what to the president. quickly, jim, on that particular point and looking at what he knew, you know, that is, the president and michael cohen and whether he was there, the fact is, is it begs a question, if michael cohen's such a liar, he's a bad guy, he doesn't know what's going on, why did you keep him around in such a long