disqualifying. what's the impact here? >> i mean, if you look again at the polling -- now, we don't have any specifically right about this, because this is so brand-new, so on, so forth. but if you look back in april at the stormy daniels story, trump said i had nothing to do with that and i didn't pay anybody or anything like that. and what you saw was the polls generally indicate that people thought he was lying. 59% said that trump knew about the stormy daniels payment. and that's a huge number. but, but they said it really wasn't that important, depending on, you know, which numbers you exactly look at, and that was especially the case among his base. so to me, the fact that they already knew he was lying -- >> yeah. >> already think he was lying. oh, wow, a tape comes out, he's lying! so, it's just confirming what they already knew. >> there seems to be some fatigue on the women part of the story. we've seen these pictures over and over again of the president standing there, you know, with his arm around his daughter, next to his wife and the playboy playmate, who is the center of this whole thing. i mean, this is just -- this is life in trump world.