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partisan witch hunt. it's republican judges appointed by republican presidents. that is not the most telling aspect. the most telling aspect, they had to be renewed. every step of having been renewed, you had to prove yet again there was some reason to surveil an american citizen. and at each point in time, the fbi would have had to come forward with information to say, look, what we told you we thought we would find, we did find. or we have reason to believe there will be more information we will uncover through the surveillance and it had to be renewed continuously. and every single step, the threshold was the same. is there enough reason for us to in many ways infringe on somebody's rights or privacy and have surveillance? and if they were able to prove it not just once but four different times, that is telling there was not a witch hunt or a partisan narrative. it was one that was based in substance. >> and this is no easy thing to get a judge to sign off on. >> no, not at all. >> incredibly serious. lawyer a, thank you for the expertise. in a matter of minutes, we're watching this very closely, because in a matter of

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