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. >> no, chris, it is the standard. because for a prosecutor -- and i was one, a united states attorney, indictment means you need to be able to go to a jury and prove those charges beyond a reasonable doubt. >> right. to convict. >> you cannot put yourself in the position of making allegations that can't be proved. but here is another point. this investigation is continuing. and those americans who were not named, but clearly were involved, there is more than roger stone, there are illusions to other americans, are put on notice and the russians and everybody involved in this investigation is put on notice that there is more to come. and i think that is a very powerful message. he may not have the evidence now to prove beyond a reasonable doubt but, remember, when george papadopoulos was finally not only indicted but actually convicted, it was months after

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