strzok was very effective. regardless of what you think about what he did -- yes, it was inappropriate what he did. given his role in this investigation, he should not have been doing it, but i thought he was pretty effective. do you think this is why they stopped allowing him to answer? when he would get one word out, they would cut him off or make their questions statements instead of questions. >> sure. let me take you on the other side of this, don. i've done a lot of hearings in my life. some were friendly. a lot were hostile. before the iraq war i did a lot of hostile hearings with former cia director george tenet. when you're in that situation, especially in an open hearing, when members of congress, republicans and democrats know they're on a camera, one of the questions you have is am i going to walk out of this room making news or not? i don't know mr. strzok, but if i were him walking into this hearing, i'd have a simple question. my reputation has been damaged. it's been damaged appropriately. he did things he should not have done. am i going to walk out of this room either damaging my reputation or the fbi's