president claiming that germany, of all countries, is a captive and totally controlled by russia. i mean, nothing could be further than the truth, given the fact that germany is the strongest european nation standing against russia, has led the call for sanctions, has led the call to keep crimea, for instance, out of the russian sphere, and russia to roll back the annexation of crimea. and this pipeline deal was one that was done 15 or more years ago. it has nothing to do with nato spending whatsoever. it's total apples and oranges, and this is what the german defense secretary said to me. >> first of all, this is a pipeline, this economic project started i think back in 2002 or '03. so, way before russia changed its behavior in 2014. we have a very diverse mix of energy supply, so the president hasn't to be worried that