june 20th is when we saw president trump's executive order that he was going to fix the problem. of course that's not what that fugazi executive order was about and i'm going to take you through that later. today was an important day. you had a court out in california say they had to reunite at least some of the youngest kids by today, and they missed the deadline. and that is the beginning of a great debate with van jones and david urban. so let's get it on right now. david, must you own that what we are seeing is more proof that this is incompetence at a minimum, insensitivity in the main, and maybe a desire to be harsh playing out in realtime? >> yeah. so, chris, just like secretary chertoff said, look, let's first -- we could do better. we should be doing better. >> he said a lot more than that,