ago. here's what jordan said. >> it's fall. i never saw, never heard of, never was told of any kind of abuse. conversations is a lot different than coming up and talking in conversations. if they had, i would have dealt with it. what bothers me the most, is the guys are saying this thing, i know they know the truth. i know they do. >> joining me now to discuss this, cnn political commentator and former senior adviser to the trump campaign jack king and democratic strategist john summers. thanks for joining me. what do you make of jordan's defense here? because i've heard the accusers, and i've also heard his side. >> i know jim well. he's a man of integrity and honesty, and he also took on the speaker of the house from his own home state. somebody's willing to take on