the health care system is in a state of collapse. it's not going to get better with the current regime in place. that's the dilemma. in terms of the positive, what can the united states and others do, well, there's a huge humanitarian crisis that has developed thanks to the regime in venezuela, it must be said. the regime will not allow humanitarian assistance to come into venezuela. that's a shame, and it needs to be reversed. many people have called for that. in the meantime, many venezuelans are actually leaving venezuela. they're going into colombia, into brazil, into the caribbean islands, which just don't have the capacity to absorb them. so humanitarian assistance, health care, and continually bringing this to the attention of the international community is important. >> but perhaps not invasion. >> well, that's a different approach. that's for sure. but one additional thing that could be done is taking recommendations from the organization of american states and submitting it to the international criminal court, which would bring potentially leaders of the regime subject to international law. >> eric farnsworth, thanks very much. coming up, the border