that cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and create a crowd, and you push back on them. [ cheers ] and you tell them they're not welcome anymore anywhere. >> she's gotten pushback, even death threats. what pressure do you think could exert some change here? >> right. my article had nothing to do with what maxine waters said and didn't sound anything like hers. >> right. >> what i'm talking about is exactly what we're doing today. there are 750 protests going on across the country. hundreds of thousands of people have registered. and nobody registers for a march. they should, but a lot of people don't. i think the real numbers are going to be much, much larger. and that's what's needed. here we are having this human rights crisis. artificially created by our president, and our congress decides that what's really