through what the numbers are that's one issue. illegal is another one. we had this flash point with the separation of kids from their parents. as they come across and the mess that is resulted that's going on now. do you agree with what the president did? >> actually, he over ridden that. he wants families to stay together with the kids. this was started by obama. >> it was not. >> kids were coming here. human trafficking and carrying drugs. we have a border. if we don't have a border woe don't have a country. >> do you separate them or keep them together? >> i would never separate -- i know you're trying to be a smart ass. i would never allow kids and parents to be separated. >> now you don't like the question. did he do the right thing or wrong? >> i don't think the president said that at all. >> the president said to separate kids from families? >> i don't think he wants to