tanking today, down 7%, it's going to be affecting their bottom line. >> you were saying something interesting about how harley-davidson is one of those few companies who's been to the white house. >> correct. >> not once, but twice. >> exactly. >> why is that significant? >> because trump has been parading harley-davidson executives, engineers, bikers themselves as a relic of, this is what american made looks like, and i think this is a huge testament to the fact that his policy has -- his tax policy is in direct contrast to these new tariffs that are being imposed and it has an unintended consequence of companies that want to manufacture in the u.s., they are being forced out of the country. and executives delineated that saying, this is not our desired outcome, and? is not the path we wanted to pursue. we are a business, and we need to act according to our shareholders. >> i'm wondering back in wisconsin, rick, we all know who's from jaynesville,