son are very real. now, indy cramer and maria cardona. thank you for being here. amy, phony stories? >> well, i think one of the thing he's talking about is the picture on the front of ""mtime magazine. it's been put out there that the child was separated from mother, which was not the case. the mother left the husband and her other children and came across the border illegally and she was with her child. with that child. that child was not separate frd the mother. and the mother was asked why you know, why is this child upset? she said oh, it's 11:00 at nigts and child's cranky. >> so time magazine -- >> that's a phony narrative. >> so, to be clear, and time magazine stands by that photo.