you were at, did they seem to have guidance as to what was actually going to happen next or how these kids would be reunited or what the next step was? >> no. they had no idea. but anderson, it's what you said. april 7th they put in the zero tolerance policy. we're arresting everyone. we're tough. we're strong. strong borders. the law says you can't detain children. that triggers the children having to be sent somewhere else. the president does the executive order yesterday. the headline is president reverses himself. he didn't reverse himself. the executive order is a sham. a reversal is a 180. this was a 360. this was a political pirouette. he wound up just where he started. the executive order says the attorney general must go renegotiate the florez decision, which is the decision that guides the fact that you can't detain juveniles.