have a sovereign right to control who enters our country. that is not cruel, it's not racist, american citizens have the right. by the way, there is no compassion in saying that if you show up with a child, we're going to allow you in, because what do we do then? we incentivize people to show up with children as a ticket in, which almost guarantees there will be more pain for children, more smuggling for children, more abuse of children. so the compassionate thing to say is you cannot come into this country illegally, period, and if you come with a child, you will be separated from that child. >> but it's a misdemeanor and you get separated and prosecuted this way. remember that, it's a misdemeanor. >> that's for americans, chris. these are not americans. these are people breaking and entering into our home, the american home. they're breaking and entering. >> i don't think that somebody's kid matters more or less if they're american. i don't see it that way.