that the children are going through, but also that the workers are going through. this is as much a labor problem -- the issue as southwest key is many problems wrapped up in one. >> john, you have been photographing the border migrant crisis since, what the bush administration? >> well, really in the last ten years. >> so have you seen anything change? what have you seen over time? >> well, over time there have been more families coming across. this was really the case starting in 2014 when people were coming from honduras, salvador and guatemala. it's just increased over time. the difference between the obama administration and the trump era is that now families are not given a notice to appear in court later. they're being separated and i could see in the pictures that i shot this last week of that little girl separation anxiety.